Heated exchange: Ex-Obama and Clinton national security director challenged on Russia vs NATO in Ukraine

On this episode of Going Underground, we speak to the senior fellow and director of European Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations and former national security director for European Affairs under Presidents Obama and Clinton, Professor Charles Kupchan. He has a heated exchange with Afshin Rattansi on Russia vs NATO in Ukraine, the history of US and NATO wars in the global south, Seymour Hersh’s report that the US blew up the Nord Stream pipelines, his support for more arms supplies to Ukraine while supporting a negotiated end to the conflict, the birth of the multipolar world, and much more.

Source: Russia Today